The Hidden Hand Interview

The following article will analyze the Hidden Hand Interview or Dialogue on Above Top Secret in 2009. My approach to guiding you right into the material is to tell you about my history, getting closer to the fundamental topic the ATS insider disclosed some intimate details about—the Illuminati. This alleged secret society is a very polarizing topic.

If you tend to believe in a supra-national structure controlling the world, you will soon find yourself in another jungle of assumptions and myths. In this maze of concepts, the Hidden Hand Interview gives some coherent overarching explanation regarding the inner nature of this “organization.” You can find the full interview at the bottom of the article, but first, let me guide you into the topic.

Before Hidden Hand came to Above Top Secret

Who are the Illuminati?

Who are the Illuminati? This question has haunted me since I read my first book by Robert Anton Wilson “Cosmic Trigger”—which found me in 2003 and is a follow-up on Wilson’s bestselling trilogy “Illuminatus.” In general, we are talking about the widespread notion of a secret society that clandestinely controls all significant developments on earth from the shadows and thereby undermines all social structures.

Many people in Germany associate this network with the Bavarian Illuminaten Order, a small secret society with quite prominent members, but it vanished soon after its establishment in 1761 because it got outlawed. The idea that this little secret society continued to exist in the shadows and gained power over the world is very reductionistic and very implausible. Nevertheless, this order of the “Illuminaten” quite likely represents a fragment of that structure that I wish to discuss here.

The Entanglement of Politics

Of course, the abstraction of a higher hierarchy above the well-known leaders such as presidents or chancellors is enormously difficult for the general public. Although many people have seen that the supposedly most influential men and women in the world are financed, established, and advised by non-governmental structures, the majority’s belief in democracy remains unshaken. Despite these undeniable facts, the masses cannot recognize more than marginal capital-oriented corruption in this entanglement between politics and big money.

Exploring the depths of conspiracy reality

The deeper someone explores this connection between government leaders and global corporations, the more evident the subversion and the extent of the manipulation become. Yet often, the real agenda remains hidden behind the apparent quest for more power and resources. It remains inaccessible to many people because it needs a spiritual understanding of the more profound correlation. Therefore even for ambitious researchers of that matter, the real agenda or intentions of the Illuminati remain blurred. However, most individuals can recognize a particular recurring pattern after deep digging.

Of course, most people have neither the interest nor the capacity to deal with this issue. Psychologically, it is undoubtedly rather unsettling or even scary to surrender to the idea that the Illuminati are more than fiction. Skeptics can easily discard this whole concept. The most obvious argument to negate this notion is that researchers can find this myth of a secret organization everywhere. Even in mainstream pop culture, the Illuminati are omnipresent. So how could a secret society like the Illuminati remain hidden when everybody is aware of them? This question is an often-heard argument to reject this idea or belief in a secret society controlling the world.

Are the Illuminati an Illusion?

It is difficult to believe that an invisible structure that supposedly rules the world can exist when it has failed to remain a secret. Maybe the Illuminati’s real power emerges from their subtle but all-embracing nature. Perhaps it is impossible to stay entirely hidden when you have your fingers all over the game. The logical consequence and distinct tactics would be to protect their existence in a stack of false allegations. They control most of the information about themselves, and they ensure that a wide range of explanations and ideas exist about them. So the Illuminati remain camouflaged in a forest of myths, deliberately scattered misinformation and fiction, like a tiger in the jungle.

To fight a pathway through this jungle, you need time and a lot of motivation. As a sincere seeker, you often end up in dead ends and false leads. Over the years, during my quest regarding this subject, my image of the Illuminati changed dramatically. Thus, I often had to ask myself about the more profound sense of this research. Is this just an illusion?

Deeper implications of Illuminati research

However, today I would claim from my perspective that my search has sent me on a journey that has brought me closer to myself. This wording may sound very abstract, but the research included a fundamentally deep insight into my reality and my responsibilities in this context. You might understand once you read the Hidden Hand Interview.

Along this journey through various books, from Fritz Springmeier to David Icke, a holistic image crystallized. This investigation included many lectures and personal interviews with other researchers on this subject. The bigger puzzle picture seems to be very abstract indeed, but despite various uncertainties and concealed areas, my interdisciplinary blueprint of the Illuminati became consistent—unfortunately, also very complex.

Due to this tremendously abstract complexity, it seemed almost impossible for me to give a summary—and I’m talking about something like a twenty-page synopsis or at least a very slim book. It seemed almost impossible to give a precise abstract about the nature of the Illuminati that an average Joe could reasonably understand.

Hidden Hand Interview on Above Top Secret

Illuminati Insider on forum

In 2013, with my already complex but still limited understanding, I found a protocol that had already been available in the public domain since 2008 but which got relatively little attention from the masses—talking about the “Hidden Hand Interview.” Adepts of Illuminati research passed it around like the holy grail. I guess even most people inside the truther-movement considered it to be “too far out.” I reckon that most researchers of this matter, who were able to find value in this document, at least for themselves, also understood that this interview would lead to skepticism and mistrust even in the circles of diehard conspiracy theorists.

Although I got confronted with this general idea of a secret society from 1996 on, I was probably first willing to accept the Hidden Hand Interview as a critical source of information ten years after my peak interest in 2003. This delay is primarily based on the fact that the author did not bother to prove his statements. Unlike many other severe publications about the Illuminati, which at least somehow try to deliver a specific chain of evidence, “Hidden Hand”—so the pseudonym—was never trying to convince anyone.

Hidden Hand presents no prove

Another reason I might have previously not recognized the importance of this interview roots is that “Hidden Hand” was an anonymous person in one of the popular forums for conspiracy theories. The website is called “Above Top Secret.” Like all the other virtual forums of this kind, it is a playground for lunatics, religious fanatics, disinformation-agent, trolls, and various hateful attention-seekers.

Of course, there is always a core of competent and witty people with brilliant ideas and a well-above-average intellectual presence. Nevertheless, within this context, it feels similar to the research of the Illuminati in general: it feels like you are searching for the infamous needle in a haystack—a haystack full of blatant lies and half-truths.

Hidden Hand – The Illuminati Insider Dialogue

The interview on “Above Top Secret“ developed as follows. In 2008, a user with the alias “Hidden Hand“ appeared in this forum and claimed to be part of the Illuminati and offered to respond to profound questions. The reason why I deeply resonated with this interview is easily explained by the fact that “Hidden Hand” described the essence of my 10-year research. He also provided other puzzle pieces, which completed and filled white spots within my inner picture. He did this in a highly condensed form, not bothered with justifications or even trying to give evidence. Everything was simply presented as fact.

When I look at the document in its entirety, 80% of the presented content did not require evidence because I already had verified these claims in my research. On top of that, the interview contained about 10% of those puzzle pieces that coherently enriched the overall picture. Of course, the material left a residual amount of question marks, where I’m still not sure whether Hidden Hand himself is a victim of indoctrination or false beliefs—this reality could be possible, as well. I do not feel that they have deliberately spread incorrect information. Instead, I tend to evaluate the idea that this person and his/her intention to bring clarity to the matter is honest. At least I feel Hidden Hand was not lying. He believed in what he had to say.

Hidden Hand’s false predictions

Anyhow! Some claims are just wrong! Especially the short-term forecasts since 2008 turned out differently as he/she anticipated. However, this “looking into the crystal ball section” lasted only a fraction of the entire interview. Moreover, Hidden Hand claimed that there was more than just one schedule or layout to fulfill the greater agenda in more than one way. Therefore, he declared the future development of human evolution would be a highly dynamic and flexible process. I suggest you put those forecasts aside and instead maintain your focus on the general layout of the Illuminati and their higher goals, which are presented in the Hidden Hand dialogue.

I think that the future will still surprise us with new facts and sources regarding the Illuminati. With that, my worldview will undoubtedly continue to reshape and develop – therefore, the phenomenon of the Illuminati is not finally solved for me, even with the information released by Hidden Hand. However, I always recommend this interview if someone asks me today on this specific subject or wants to know my opinion on the real power behind worldly affairs. In my humble opinion, Hidden Hand is the shortest and most compact systemic treatise that explains the background of the Illuminati and their hidden agenda.

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