ATS HIDDEN HAND INTERVIEW
ILLUMINATI INSIDER SOURCE INTERVIEW
Who are the Illuminati?
Who is the Hidden Hand, and who are the Illuminati? The second question haunted me since I read my first book by Robert Anton Wilson’s “Cosmic Trigger”—which found me in 2003 and a follow up on Wilson’s bestselling trilogy “Illuminatus.” In general, we are talking about the widespread notion of a secret society that clandestinely controls all significant developments on earth from the shadows and thereby undermines all social structures.
Many people in Germany associate this network with the Bavarian Illuminaten Order, a small secret society that had quite prominent members, but which vanished pretty soon after its establishment in 1761 because it got outlawed. The idea that this little secret society continued to exist in the shadows and gained power over the world is not only very reductionistic; it is also very implausible. Nevertheless, this order of the “Illuminaten” quite likely represents a fragment of that structure that I wish to discuss here.
THE ENTANGLEMENT OF POLITICS AND COOPERATIONS
Of course, for the general public, the abstraction of a higher hierarchy above the well-known leaders such as presidents or chancellors is enormously difficult. Although many people have seen that the supposedly most powerful men and women in the world are financed, established, and are getting advised by non-governmental structures, the majority’s belief in democracy remains unshaken. Despite these undeniable facts, the masses are not able to recognize more than a marginal capital-oriented corruption in this entanglement between politics and big money.
Exploring the depths of conspiracy reality
The deeper someone explores this connection between government leaders and global corporations, the more evident the subversion and the extent of the manipulation become. Yet often, the real agenda remains hidden behind the apparent quest for more power and resources, and it remains inaccessible to many people because it needs a spiritual understanding of the more profound correlation. Therefore even for ambitious researchers of that matter, the real agenda or intentions of the Illuminati remain blurred. However, after some deep digging, most individuals can recognize a particular recurring pattern.
Of course, most people have neither the interest nor the capacity to deal with this issue. Psychologically, it is undoubtedly rather unsettling or even scary to surrender to the idea that the Illuminati are more than an imagination. Skeptics can easily discard this whole concept. The most obvious argument to negate this notion lies in the fact that this myth of a secret organization can be found everywhere. Even in mainstream pop-culture, the Illuminati are omnipresent. So how could a secret society like the Illuminati remain hidden, when everybody is aware of them? This question is an often-heard argument to reject this idea or belief in a secret society controlling the world.
ARE THE ILLUMINATI AN ILLUSION?
It is difficult to believe that an invisible structure, which supposedly rules the world, can exist when it has failed to remain a secret at all. Maybe the Illuminati’s real power emerges from their subtle but all-embracing nature. Perhaps it is impossible to stay entirely hidden when you have your fingers all over the game. The logical consequence and their distinct tactics would be to protect their existence in a stack of false allegations. They control most of the information about themselves, and they ensure that a wide range of explanations and ideas exist about them. So the Illuminati remain camouflaged in a forest of myths, deliberately scattered misinformation and fictions, like a tiger in the jungle.
To fight a pathway through this jungle, you need time and a lot of motivation. Very often, as a sincere seeker, you end up in dead ends and false leads. Over the years, during my quest regarding this subject, my image of the Illuminati changed dramatically. Thus, very often, I had to ask myself about the more profound sense of this research. Is this just an illusion?
Deeper implications of Illuminati research
However, today I would claim from my perspective that my search has sent me on a journey – a journey that has brought me closer to myself. This wording may sound very abstract, but the research included a fundamentally deep insight into my reality and my responsibilities in this context. You might understand once you read the Hidden Hand Interview.
Along this journey through various books, from Fritz Springmeier to David Icke, a holistic image crystallized. This investigation included many lectures and personal interviews with other researchers on this subject. The bigger puzzle picture seems to be very abstract indeed, but despite various uncertainties and concealed areas, my interdisciplinary blueprint of the Illuminati became consistent—unfortunately, also very complex.
Due to this tremendously abstract complexity, it seemed almost impossible for me to give a summary—and I’m talking about something like a twenty-page synopsis or at least a very slim book. To me, it seemed almost impossible to give a precise abstract about the nature of the Illuminati that could reasonably be understood by an average Joe.
Hidden Hand On Above Top Secret
ILLUMINATI INSIDER AT ABOVE TOP SECRET
Hidden Hand on Above Top Secret forum
In 2013, with my already complex but still limited understanding, I found a protocol that had already been available in the public domain since 2008, but which got relatively little attention from the masses—talking about the “Hidden Hand Interview.” Adepts of Illuminati research passed it around like the holy grail. I guess even most people inside the truther-movement considered it to be “too far out.” I reckon that most researchers of this matter, who were able to find value in this document, at least for themselves, also understood that even in the circles of diehard conspiracy theorists, this interview would lead to skepticism and mistrust.
Although I got confronted with this general idea of a secret society from 1996 on, I was probably first willing to accept the Hidden Hand Interview as a critical source of information ten years after my peak interest in 2003. This delay is primarily based on the fact that the author did not bother to prove his statements. Unlike many other severe publications about the Illuminati, which at least somehow try to deliver a specific chain of evidence, “Hidden Hand”—so the pseudonym—was never trying to convince anyone.
Hidden Hand presents no prove and stays anonymous
Another reason why I might have previously not recognized the importance of this interview roots in the fact that “Hidden Hand” was an anonymous person in one of the popular forums for conspiracy theories. The website is called “Above Top Secret.” Like all the other virtual forums of this kind, it is a playground for lunatics, religious fanatics, disinformation-agent, trolls, and various hateful attention-seekers.
Of course, there is always a core of competent and witty people with smart ideas and a well-above-average intellectual presence. Nevertheless, within this context, it feels similar to the research of the Illuminati in general: it feels like you are searching for the infamous needle in a haystack—a haystack full of blatant lies and half-truths.
Hidden Hand – The Illuminati Insider Interview
The interview on “Above Top Secret“ developed as follows. In 2008, a user with the alias “Hidden Hand“ appeared in this forum and claimed to be part of the organization of the Illuminati and offered to respond to profound questions. The reason why I deeply resonated with this interview is easily explained by the fact that “Hidden Hand” described the essence of my 10-year research. He also provided other puzzle pieces, which completed and filled white spots within my inner picture. He did this in a highly condensed form, not bothered with justifications or even trying to give evidence. Everything was simply presented as fact.
When I look at the document in its entirety, 80% of the content presented did not require evidence to me because I already had verified these claims in my research. On top of that, the interview contained about 10% of those puzzle pieces that coherently enriched the overall picture. Of course, the material left a residual amount of question marks, where I’m still not sure whether Hidden Hand himself is a victim to indoctrination or false beliefs. This reality could be possible, as well. I do not feel that he or she has deliberately spread incorrect information. Instead, I tend to evaluate the idea that this person and his/her intention to bring clarity to the matter is honest. At least I feel Hidden Hand was not lying. He believed in what he had to say.
Hidden Hand’s false predictions
Anyhow! Some claims are just wrong! Especially the short-term forecasts since 2008 turned out differently as he/she anticipated. However, this “looking into the crystal ball section” lasted only a fraction of the entire interview. Moreover, Hidden Hand claimed in more than one way, that there was more than just one schedule or layout to fulfill the more significant agenda. Therefore, he declared the future development of human evolution would be a highly dynamic and flexible process. I suggest you put those forecasts aside and instead maintain your focus on the general layout of the Illuminati and their higher goals, which are presented in the Hidden Hand Interview.
I think that the future will still surprise us with new facts and sources regarding the Illuminati. With that, my worldview will undoubtedly continue to reshape and develop – therefore, the phenomenon of the Illuminati is not finally solved for me, even with the information released by Hidden Hand. However, if someone asks me today on this specific subject, or wants to know my opinion on the real power behind worldly affairs, then I always recommend this interview. Hidden Hand is, in my humble opinion, the shortest and most compact systemic treatise that explains the background of the Illuminati and their hidden agenda.
Here are the main sources for the Hidden Hand Interview on Above Top Secret:
DOWNLOAD PDF HIDDEN HAND INTERVIEW EDITED BY WES PENRE
SOURCE ILLUMINATI NEWS (CLEANED UP FROM COMMENT-SPAM)
ORIGINAL ABOVE TOP SECRET THREAD
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Hey, maybe he wrote his posts on ATS regarding those hidden hands, after reading the “law of one” book ;)
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ra-material-elkins-rueckert-mccarty/1133191403
Maybe, maybe not.
I was pondering Masonic Tracing Boards today and came to a perspective I hadn’t rolled over since I first read the Hidden Hand interview a few years ago. To go beyond what you already concretely know in your mind and then continue to do that you come to very unusual thoughts/ideas. The Hidden Hand interview allows a very obtuse perspective on reality. On good vs bad. It allows a calm space of neutrality, going beyond the beyond and into extreme understanding that is not of this dimension. Everyone’s experiences and reality are different and require different steps to get to nuetrality but in essence it is the vast understanding of all that is, was and will be, it is the space where the Great Source Creator lies. There is hideous sides to the Illuminati, Satanic Ritual Abuse, child trafficking, mass misery in any way imaginable…yet you have to wonder is this all apart of the “experience”? Have I not been a perpetrator of such misery? I have been a victim? Am I free from both because I have found nuetrality in this lifetime and therefore need not be a part of the “drama” but simply an observer? Who knows except you.
Very well said!
I had met this interview four years ago, and found very interesting to me. English is not my mother tongue, So it is really still hard to understand,though.
So far I have read several times, and still find new spiritual information which inspired me a lot every time I read it.
Regarding incorrect prediction, he said that predictions by negative entity with date are always incorrect and lose their credibility. So heshowed us that his statement in the interview is correct. This is my understanding for this matter.
It is surely the most helpful spiritual message like Arcturian’s.
Thank you very much.
Akira in Japan.
Thanks for the feedback. Arigato! Feel free to post some other insightful links here.
I have hit upon the followings in connection with the below statement at page 44 in the discourse.
“Religion is either actually created, or at very least, heavily influenced by us. “
1. Buddhism in Japan use this kind of Mandara picture.
See the below website.
This may show the creational downward spiral of
creator’s universe, which appear to be very similar to
those of Russian doll style stepping down.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://i.pinimg.com/236x/70/ac/22/70ac223623a9aa0dcade6f7203cd1c5a.jpg&imgref
2. Zen Buddhism
Zen is one of Buddism, whose teaching is practising
meditation. One famous branch’s teaching is just to sit, sit and sit. nothing else.
It seems to me that it would tend to lead Nihilism.
While at page 41 it indicates that the connection with the one infinite creator is recommended.
No intention to connect with higher dimensional being or creators would be very meaningless, which must be DS strategy to half true and half false.
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It is possible that Zen Buddism has been infiltrated and corrupted to a certain degree. Still, from my point of view, just sitting and trying to transcend that realm of the phenomenal world (Mayam/Matrix) is an appropriate approach to connect with the divine creator. As HH implies and as many wisdom teachings point to, there is just ONE (overarching consciousness) and the physical reality of separation and individuality is just a mental construct. This includes the personal Ego which is also just a temporary illusion. If we break through this self-induced deception we are free. Just my humble 2 cents.
Further to my yesterday’s message,
1) Meditation is must to do. but if people do it everyday all year around, all their life with no intent. they might create their reality of sit , sit and sit like void ???
2) In case that images of mandala can not be reached with my information, pls search with “Japanese mandala buddhism” in images. Thanks. Actually I could not reached them. Sorry about it.
Another thing which interest me is the mirror in Japanese traditional Shinto shrine. Please refer to page37’ of mirror /hello matter in your discourse. The round mirror is located at the center in the hall of worship. People believe that God reside in it.
People will face this mirror during their prayer.
But it is located remotely and the size is very small and the surface is not clear. So it can not reflect their face and body, which remind me of the veil of forgetfulness. The mirror should reflect prayer’s face and body for them to know the truth.
Please google with Japanese shinto mirror.